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RhadaTip DPS/HPS Tooltip

 

Project Updated:
Files Updated: Thu, Oct 22 2009
Supports Game Version: 3.2.0
Category: Tooltip, Caster, Combat, Damage Dealer, and Healer
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Project Manager: tylerdurden2
Additional Authors: No additional authors
Current Version: RhadaTip 2.1.5b
License: GNU General Public License version 3 (GPLv3)
Development Site: CurseForge.com
Avg Daily DL (last 30 days): 179
Downloads Total: 17,184
Favorites: 43
Comments: 44
  • About RhadaTip DPS/HPS Tooltip
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RhadaTip Dps/Hps Tooltip Enhancer 2.1.5b

  • What does RhadaTip do?
  1. Item V.S. Item comparisons (to know how much dps this new badge item will grant to you, how many dkp you should bid on this newly dropped raid loot, etc).
    1. Item V.S. Item comes with an auto filling socket mechanism
    2. RhadaTip support trinkets comparisons.
  2. Full gear evaluation, and projected full gear value (as the result of swapping the tooltipped item with the currently equipped item).
    1. This means that the item comparison is always accurate. Limiting the scope of the comparison only to the two items themselves will produce highly inaccurate results (as a consequence of passing the hit cap, breaking a tier set bonus etc)
    2. Thus, RhadaTip supports the hit cap and tier set bonuses.
  3. One-button-optimizer for the whole gear. Clicking this button, RhadaTip will scan your equipped items plus all the items in your bags, compute which combination will result in the highest gear xPS value, and equip it.
  4. The comparison between items and setups can go n items ahead of your current gear, up to the best in slot configuration if you want, by using the combination of RhadaTip and WoWEquip.
    1. This is extremely useful. An item that is a small dps gain at the moment, might be a good dps gain (or a dps loss, for that matter) after having changed another item. As an example, an item drops (ie. a new pair of bracers). It is a small dps gain for you at the moment. You are only two emblems away from getting a new pair of legs. Before passing or bidding dkp, you might be interested in knowing what kind of dps gain those bracers would net to you also factoring in the new pair of leggings that you are about to get. Using RhadaTip and WoWEquip, that is possible.
    2. This is also much more useful for the average raider than a simple BiS list. The best in slot list is actually quite useless considering that those items are only the highest dps items when you combine them all together, and less than 0.00001% of the raiders will ever get them before the next tier is released.
    3. Easy, on the fly comparisons between your full gear set and that one of other players.
  5. RhadaTip links your current setups to your currently active talent tree. Swapping the active talent tree will automatically swap all values within RhadaTip. This (for example) means no overhead for a RhadaTip user changing from restoration to balance before a raid.
  6. RhadaTip comes with a gem optimizer. The gem optimizer's use is twofold.
    1. On the left handside it shows the best gem of each colour, based on your currently set scaling values.
    2. On the right handide, it will compute for you the optimal gemming of any item, be it an item that you already own (and therefore might be already gemmed), or an item that you don't already own. It will also show what gain you will get by regemming, so that you can better evaluate if it is worth going for it.
  7. It comes with a collection of pre defined scaling values accessible by the /rt pv slash command. These values are mostly taken from ElitistJerks or SimulationCraft for maximum reliability and actuality.
    1. When you log in with RhadaTip for the first time, it will compare your talents against those of the pre-set scaling values, and automatically load a template if there is a match.
  8. By using RhadaTip in combo with Auc-Searcher-RhadaTip, you can easily scan the auction house to find upgrades for you.
  • How does it work?
    To make the "xPS gain = n" show meaningful numbers, type /rt sv to open the input frame. Type in your scaling values. Once you have saved them with the button, they will be saved for future game sessions.
    If you don't have your scaling values, use /rt pv and select the closest set of scaling values to you (based on your gear level and talents).
    If you have spent your talent in a way that matches one of the RhadaTip saved templates, the scaling values will be automatically set (but I still suggest to review them).
    To make the "Total gear xPS = n" show even more meaningful numbers, type /rt hc to open the input frame. Type in your desired hit percentage that you want to achieve from gear only. As an example, if your hit cap versus a boss is at 17% hit, and you plan to receive +4% hit from raid buffs or racials, you have to put 13 in this frame (mind not putting the % symbol in here too). Here you can also set a "some casting time" value used to compute trinket procs, and the default filling gems for each empty socket bonus. Once you have saved them with the button, it will be saved for future game sessions.
    Where to get your correct scaling values? I'd suggest either from ElitistJerks or from SimulationCraft.
  • Why should I update from 2.1.4 to 2.1.5?
    - Rings and trinkets comparisons should now be always accurate, regardless of hit rings currently worn by the player.
    - Added tier9 pre-saved scaling values.
    - Fixed a bug caused by One-Hand weapons that sometimes prevented the gear optimizer from working.
    - Added the following gems: Sovereign Dreadstone and Nightmare Tear.
    - Added the 3 Darkmoon Fairie: Greatness cards that had been left out of the previous releases.
    - Added russian localized tier set names (fixing the 2.1.4 known bug with the ruRU locale).
    - Added a message that shows how many gear combinations the gear optimizer is about to test (as a reference, on my pc 14400 combinations took 182 seconds to be fully evaluated).
    - Fixed a bug that was sometimes causing the gear optimizer to equip the wrong rings or trinkets.
    - The gear optimizer now factors in the 12 hit ratings from the enchantment Icewalker toward the evaluation of the excessive hit over the user specified gear hit cap.
    - The gear optimizer now supports shields properly.
    - Fixed an issue caused by mana per 5 socketbonuses in the deDE locale.
    - Rewritten many core functions to speed the addon up and make future additions (ie the expertise cap) easier to implement.
    - Updated the french locale.
  • Why should I update from 2.1.5 to 2.1.5b?
    - Fixed a possible bug that causes tier bonuses to be ignored.
    - Added a checkbox in /rt hc to manage the Icewalker enchantment properly.
  • What other commands are there?
    Quite a few. You can access the complete list of available options by typing /rt in game. In here, I'll only spend a couple words on the following:
    /rt sv -> Opens up the scaling values' input frame.
    /rt hc -> Opens up the frame with useful functionalities like the hit cap, the average casting time, the auto filling gems, turn on/off the WoWEquip support etc.
    /rt og -> Opens up the Gem Optimizer frame.
    /rt ogear -> Opens up the Gear Optimizer frame.
    /rt pv -> Opens up the frame containing pre-set values for different specs and gear levels.
  • What assumptions does the mod make?
    - If the item diplayed in your tooltip has an empty socket slot, and you haven't picked up a default filling gem for that socket colour, the mod assumes that it is filled with a 19 spellpower fictitious gem. This gem will not count toward activating the socketbonus.
    - The hit cap is only taken into account when computing the "total gear dps = n" line, it is not taken into account when computing the "dps gain = n", as the scope of this latter line is local to the two compared items only.
    - Enchantments and prismatic sockets are ignored and in no way contribute to the xPS gains.
    - - When comparing rings and trinkets, the projected "Total gear xPS" line added under the tooltipped ring/trinket is what you would obtain by replacing the tooltipped ring/trinket over the weakest ring/trinket that you currently have equipped.
    (not true anymore as of version 2.1.5)
    - Trinkets like Illustration of the Dragon Soul are modeled as static gains. Keeping the stacks up is generally possible, and most classes can even stack the charges up before pulling.
    - The tooltip will read "DPS gain" if you have 81 or more hit rating, otherwise it will read "HPS gain". This is just the tooltip wording, so if you are leveling up a dk and have less than 80 hit rating, don't be scared, you are still seeing dps values.
    - The hit cap is considered an hard cap. After the cap, all the hit rating is worth nothing. If you have a soft hit cap, just change the hit scaling value once you are past it.
    - The Avg Casting Time field in /rt hc is TIMEPERIOD (say 60 seconds) / NUMBER OF CASTS (that can proc trinkets).
    - Clicking a pre-set value button will only save scaling values, you will still have to configure the /rt hc frame for accurate values.
    - There are always two available slash commands for RhadaTip. One is /RhadaTip, the other is either /rt or /rtip, based on whether you have RaidTracker loaded or not.
  • What doesn't work in 2.1.5?
    There is a bug that may cause tier bonuses to be ignored.
  • What doesn't work in 2.1.5b?
    There are currently no known bugs.
  • Which classes does it support?
    It was developed with warlocks in mind, but it should work out fine for every dps and healing class.
  • What is the difference between this mod and RatingBuster?
    This mod has xPS in its mind. RatingBuster is used to convert ratings into percentages, and to obtain a breakdown of the sum of all the stats on the tooltipped item. In no way it delivers actual xPS informations. Thus, none of the key features of RhadaTip listed in these f.a.q. is present in RatingBuster.
  • What is the difference between this mod and Pawn?
    Taken from the answers to the question "What does RhadaTip do" at the beginning of this f.a.q., the following RhadaTip features aren't found (or are radically different) in Pawn:
    • 1.2 (Trinkets)
    • 2 (Full gear evaluation...)
    • 2.1 (... leading to always accurate comparisons)
    • 2.2 (Tier set bonuses and hit cap)
    • 3 (the 1-click gear optimizer)
    • 4, 4.1 and 4.2 (the ability to go n items ahead of your current gear, to compare not just two items but n items, etc)
    • 4.3 (compare your gear to that of other playes)
    • 5 (support to dual specs)
    • 6, 6.1 and 6.2 (the gem optimizer)
    • 7, 7.1 (pre-set scaling values and auto-loading of the best scaling value template on login)
  • What is coming up next?
    - Expertise cap.
    - Tank support.
    - Asian localization.
  • How can I contribute?
    - Help me with pre-saved scaling values, especially for the healing classes/specs.
    - Test the localizations.
    - Help me with a couple trinket models.
  • Compatibility issues.
    There is a compatibility issue with Autobar, I hope that with the help of its author we'll be able to fix it.
  • Special Thanks to...
    I'd like to thank:
    Gotai of <Order of the Turtle>, The Sha'tar EU, for his support and patience in helping me overcome some difficulties.
    Dedmonwakeen of <Wicked Legion>, Llane US, for helping me solve the melee weapon issue.
    Mephaïste of <Les Larmes de Mathystra>, Throk'Feroth EU, for making the frFR locale a reality.
    Nightdragon (forum user), for helping me fix the deDE localization.
    Xinhuan, for making the interaction between RhadaTip and WoWEquip possible.
    StingerSoft, for localizing the mod in Russian.
    Troffel of <Ein Herz für Hühnchen>, Der Rat von Dalaran EU, for helping me to optimize the Gear Optimization tool.
  • Downloads (7)
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File Name Release Type Game Version Downloads Date
Addon Curse.com Beta 2.3.3 0 9/29/2008
  File Name Release Type Game Version Downloads Date  
  RhadaTip DPS/HPS Tooltip RhadaTip 2.1.5b Release 3.2.0 3,397 10/22/2009
  RhadaTip DPS/HPS Tooltip RhadaTip 2.1.5 Beta 3.2.0 858 10/20/2009
  RhadaTip DPS/HPS Tooltip RhadaTip 2.1.4 Release 3.2.0 3,697 9/24/2009
  RhadaTip DPS/HPS Tooltip RhadaTip 2.1.3c Release 3.2.0 2,127 9/8/2009
  RhadaTip DPS/HPS Tooltip RhadaTip 2.1.2 Release 3.2.0 931 8/30/2009
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  • penaiel said 

    I found a conflict with autobar. When I dont use RhadaTip, autobar dont work and when I unload RT autobar is back.. and I rather use autobar than RT.
    Fix that and I would be very happy.

    And if there is something I can do to make both work now then plz tell me. I even deleted my configs for autobar if they had been corrupt or something, nothing seemed to help.

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  • This conflict has been around since day one, and is also mentioned in the FAQ above. Sadly the lua exception is triggered in Autobar's code, so I can't do anything about it. I've also contacted Autobar's author, but without luck.
    It would appear that it has been discontinued as I've been reading on forums, so chances are that it will break with 3.3 either way.

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  • penaiel said 

    tobad, anyone know a replacement for autobar then ?

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  • Arranf said 

    Victor's Call (Heroic)
    Darkmoon Card: Greatness (Agi and Str)

    Need adding to trinkets

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  • Sure that the agility one is missing?

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  • Hi, this gem optimisation is nice, but what would be great is if it looked at the all your equipped gear, decide if under the hit cap, to equip hit gems, what slot would be ideal so that breaking socket bonuses would result in least amount of dps lost, and if hit gems arnt neaded, when to keep socket bonuses or break with a better ideal gem.

    last but not least, once hit capped decide if teh socet bonnuses are worth it, take this theoretical example using the following stat weights:

    int 0.27
    spir 0.86
    crit 0.87
    haste 0.9
    sp 1.34

    ive caluclated that teh following gems are ideal for specific slots when matching for bonus:
    red = runed cardinal ruby =30.82
    yellow= reckless ametrine =25.08
    blue = purified dreadstone = 24.68

    if i have an arbitrary item with 3 sockets, one of each color, the total dps value of the gems using the above to match the sockets would be 30.82+25.08+24.68=80.58 now lets say the socket bonus is +9sp that would be a value of 12.06 so gems + socket bonus is 80.58+12.06=92.64,
    now using the same example if i were to use 3xruned cardinal ruby breaking the socket bonus, the total dps would be 3x30.82 = 92.46
    so in our first example, 92.64 (matching sockets) > 92.46 (using best gem breaking sockets) so the conclusiion is its better to keep the socket bonus

    in a second example, lets say we had 1 blue socket and the bonus was +4 int
    matching the socket with a purified dreadstone would give us a 24.68 dps
    and socket bonus is 4x0.27=1.08
    total dps from matching is 25.76. now if i put a runed cardnal ruby in the same place, breaking socket bonus my dps value would be 30.82 so in this case, its better to break it.

    i hope this was clear enough


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  • I understand your comment about hit gems. I've not given up on that, but it is much harder to implement, and especially to keep fast enough (like it is now, as opposed to the gear optimizer).
    Whilst I understand your following comments about the item with 3 sockets, one of each colour + 9sp bonus etc, I do not see your point. What you described (again, excluding the hit gems) is to the letter what the gem optimizer currently does.

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  • what i meant, is there are times when you'll get more dps by keeping socket bonuses vs breaking the socket bonus, if the addon could figure out that we would have more dps by going with the bonus vs without. in my example of the 3 sockets, i stated socket bonus is 9sp. if we were to reduce that sp to lets say, 5, so socket bonus is now worth 6.7 so value of the gems matching the socket would be 80.58+6.7=87.28

    now if i were to go with second example (using all runed rubies) its worth 92.46
    so since 92.46>87.28 we could safely say, the socket bonus isn't worth it's salt

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  • I'm sorry but I still insist that what you say is exactly what the addon is doing. I've uploaded two images. Let's start with the first one:

    http://web.tiscali.it/rhadamanthys/gem_op_1.jpg

    Circled in red there is the item dps value. That value is obtained by filling empty sockets with what you have selected in /rt hc. You can see my choises in /rt hc to be Runed Cardinal Ruby for the red, Reckless Ametrine for the yellow, and Purified Dreadstone for the blue. With one of each the item tooltip value is 633.94. On the right handside you can see that I've also run the gem optimizer on that item's item id. The optimizer returned that the best way to gem that item is by using Runed Cardinal Ruby for the red, Reckless Ametrine for the yellow, and Purified Dreadstone for the blue: this matches exactly my default fillers in /rt hc, therefore the gear optimizer returns the exact same dps value for the item, 633.94.

    Example 2 now:

    http://web.tiscali.it/rhadamanthys/gem_op_2.jpg

    As you can see, I did not change the default filling gems in /rt hc, therefore the tooltipped item is being filled with a Reckless Ametrine and with a Purified Dreadstone, netting a total item dps value of 468.4. On the right handside, I ran that item with the gem optimizer. The gem optimizer has returned a gemming different than the one that I've set in /rt hc. To be precise, it is pointing out that I should gem Runed Cardinal Ruby in both the yellow slots and the blue slots. The item dps resulting by such gemming is 470.56, higher than the other gemming (or what kind of "optimizer" would it be :P). What the gem optimizer is doing is telling you that in this case, you should not go for the socket bonus to achieve the highest possible item dps value. Isn't that what you were looking for?

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  • hm, i think i may have screwed up somewhere along the lines, my appologies for wasting your time.

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  • No worries :)

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  • NeXxUsGT said 

    Hello, I keep getting an error when I compute my gear and I have no idea what's going on. I was hoping this release would fix it, but it hasn't. I have searched to see if anyone has been having this problem, but I haven't seen it here is the error. Help would be appreciated thank you.

    Date: 2009-10-20 19:51:00
    ID: 1
    Error occured in: Global
    Count: 1
    Message: ..\AddOns\RhadaTip\RhadaTipGear.lua line 531:
    attempt to compare number with nil
    Debug:
    [C]: ?
    RhadaTip\RhadaTipGear.lua:531:
    RhadaTip\RhadaTipGear.lua:506
    RhadaTip\RhadaTipGear.lua:961: RhadaTip_FireGearOptimization()
    [string "*:OnClick"]:1:
    [string "*:OnClick"]:1
    AddOns:
    Swatter, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    AtlasLoot, vv5.08.06
    AtlasLootFu, vv5.08.06
    AucAdvanced, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    AucDb, v5.1.DEV.3583
    AucFilterBasic, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    AucFilterOutlier, v5.6.4424.2531
    AucMatchUndercut, v5.6.4424.2531
    AucSearcherRhadaTip, v1.0.0
    AucStatClassic, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    AucStatHistogram, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    AucStatiLevel, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    AucStatPurchased, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    AucStatSales, v5.6.4424.2842
    AucStatSimple, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    AucStatStdDev, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    AucStatWOWEcon, v5.6.4424.2530
    AucUtilAHWindowControl, v5.6.4424.3311
    AucUtilAppraiser, v5.6.4424.2530
    AucUtilAskPrice, v5.6.4424.3175
    AucUtilAutoMagic, v5.6.4424.3142
    AucUtilCompactUI, v5.6.4424.2530
    AucUtilEasyBuyout, v5.6.4424.3583
    AucUtilFixAH, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    AucUtilItemSuggest, v5.6.4424.3108
    AucUtilPriceLevel, v5.6.4424.2545
    AucUtilScanButton, v5.6.4424.2530
    AucUtilScanFinish, v5.6.4424.2530
    AucUtilScanProgress, v5.6.4424.2530
    AucUtilSearchUI, v5.6.4424.3655
    AucUtilSimpleAuction, v5.6.4424.0
    AucUtilVendMarkup, v5.6.4424.2530
    Babylonian, v5.1.DEV.130
    BeanCounter, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    Cartographer, v2.0
    CartographerBattlegrounds, v2.0
    CartographerCoordinates, v2.0
    CartographerFoglight, v2.0
    CartographerGroupColors, v2.0
    CartographerGuildPositions, v2.0
    CartographerInstanceLoot, v2.0
    CartographerInstanceMaps, v2.0
    CartographerInstanceNotes, v2.0
    CartographerLookNFeel, v2.0
    CartographerNotes, v2.0
    CartographerPOI, v2.0
    CartographerWaypoints, v2.0
    CartographerZoneInfo, v2.0
    CCTracker, v
    Configator, v5.1.DEV.130
    DBMCore, v
    DebugLib, v5.1.DEV.130
    DoTimer, v4.3.6
    DRTracker, v
    Enchantrix, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    EnchantrixBarker, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    GearScore, v3.0.012 - Release
    Gladius, vv1.0.2
    Informant, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    ItemRack, v
    MikScrollingBattleText, v5.4.66
    Necrosis, v3.0 (r221)
    Omen, v3.0.8
    PartyTime, v1.1
    Quartz, v1.0
    QuartzBuff, v1.0
    QuartzFlight, v1.0
    QuartzFocus, v1.0
    QuartzGCD, v1.0
    QuartzInterrupt, v1.0
    QuartzLatency, v1.0
    QuartzMirror, v1.0
    QuartzPet, v1.0
    QuartzPlayer, v1.0
    QuartzRange, v1.0
    QuartzSwing, v1.0
    QuartzTarget, v1.0
    QuartzTimer, v1.0
    QuartzTradeskill, v1.0
    QuickAuctions, v
    Recount, v
    RhadaTip, v2.1.5
    SlideBar, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    Stubby, v5.6.4424 (KangaII)
    TomTom, vwowi:revision
    BlizRuntimeLib_enUS v3.2.2.30200 <us>
    (ck=994)

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  • Do you have any pvp items in your bags (mostly the insigna)?
    Do you have any lvl 70 items (especially the black temple necklace)?

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  • NeXxUsGT said 

    Ah, yes I do actually I have the Black Temple Necklace and PvP items, but no insignia. Will removing them make this go away?

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  • The black temple necklace bugs the addon, it is a known bug and both in these comments on curse and on the ones on wowinterface there is quite some talk about it.
    Just as with the last patch, I decided not to investigate and fix the black temple necklace bug and spend that time on some other feature, since it isnt (along with the pvp items) something that you should have in your bags when calling the gear optimizer in the first place.
    Once you have placed that necklace in the bank it should work just fine.

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  • NeXxUsGT said 

    Ah, that helped thank you very much :). I don't think the error pops up with PvP gear though I left some PvP gear in my inventory since some of it is better than some of the PvE gear I have. The removal of the necklace did make the mod work perfectly though.

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  • The only reported pvp item is the trinket, and it only happened to one user. Strangely enough, after he reinstalled wow it didn't throw any lua error anymore, but it was worth asking :p

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  • is this only fro caster only??

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  • No. As you can see from the images or as it says in the faqs: It was developed with warlocks in mind, but it should work out fine for every dps and healing class.

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  • Farook said 

    What about supporting tank classes?

    Anything in mind for the future?

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