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Ni Karma System

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Project Updated:
Files Updated: Sun, Oct 26 2008
Category: Boss Encounters
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Project Manager: Vuelhering
Current Version: Ni Karma System ver 3.0 rel 01
Downloads Today: 6
Downloads Total: 8,565
Favorites: 38
Comments: 87
  • About Ni Karma System
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Ni Karma System



The Ni Karma System (NKS) is a system of loot distribution for tracking raids. It solves many of the issues with DKP, Zero-sum DKP, and other roll-bonus systems which do not work well with WoW, such as inflation, differences between class/non-class items, rewards for learning dungeons, DKP deficit which crushes new raiders, etc.

Specifically:
* Loot received is generally proportional to time put in, but is fair to new raiders.
* Little to no inflation. It tends towards zero-sum.
* Bonuses for learning an encounter don't break the zero-sum property.
* Difficult to break/collude, without it being obvious.
* Items do not get disenchanted from point competition between players.
* Separate databases for different dungeons, if desired
* System "feels" fair to the attendees. (see poll results below)

NKS is a roll bonus system, where you gather points for raid attendance which can be added to a /roll 100. It specifically deals with WoW's class items vs non-class items issues, inflation, and different dungeon databases. This system was designed specifically to work with WoW, without too much bookkeeping.

The system can be tracked using pen and paper, but Mavios of Icecrown wrote a plugin which makes it even easier. Included is a php website script to display results, too!

The full description of the system is included, plus an html tutorial, plus an overview of other loot systems which shows why this one was created. Once you understand the system, it's pretty straightforward.

If you have implementation issues or questions, I will try to answer them. But please read the description in the download, carefully, before asking.

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I polled the raiders in my guild and got these results. The vast majority think it works well, some have minor issues with it, and a couple don't like it at all. That is about the best you can hope for in a loot distribution system, and I've made some tweaks to try to improve issues with fairness.

Q: How do you like the Karma system?
[ 43 ] [56.58%] It works very well, esp when the loot list is updated, and with the karma cutoff of 70/100.
[ 15 ] [19.74%] It works very well, but I don't understand it. I just declare and occasionally get epix.
[ 13 ] [17.11%] It works okay, but I don't like some parts such as the karma cutoff, loot list, fairness, etc.
[ 2 ] [2.63%] I think it's unfair/biased/broken/etc.
[ 3 ] [3.95%] I don't raid, but I really like to vote.
Total Votes: 76


One of the known issues is the database is stored locally on the raid leader's computer (and uploaded to the webserver). When using multiple raid leaders, this becomes an issue of coordination. Although I haven't yet tested it, you might find this merger app useful.

  • Downloads (6)
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File Name Release Type Game Version Downloads Date
Addon Curse.com Beta 2.3.3 0 9/29/2008
  File Name Release Type Game Version Downloads Date  
  Ni Karma System ver 3.0 rel 01 Release 3.0.2 180 10/26/2008
  Ni Karma System NKS 2.4 rel 01 (plugin only) Beta 2.4.3 35 7/19/2008
  Ni Karma System 2.2 rel 01 Release 2.0.0 88 9/27/2007
  Ni Karma System 2.1 rel 01 Release 2.1.0 6 6/4/2007
  Ni Karma System 2.0 rel 03 Release 2.0.0 8 1/29/2007
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  • hawc51 said 

    Vuelhering,

    I seem to be having a problem with all of my raiders becomign "Unknown" class, and many of the Tier6 tokens not being detected as Class Items for the purposes of Min/Max Karma won and lost.

    Does anyone else seem to be having this problem?

  • Ok, new download is up either here, or http://knights-who-say-ni.com/NKS

    ... and thanks Dys!

  • Dang, wish I saw these comments earlier.

    I worked out some of these bugs, although it looks like others have beat me to it! :)

    That's awesome. I'll upload a fresh distribution shortly.

  • Thanks DYS ! works like a champ !

  • ltoro said 

    Dys!

    Thank you so much that works perfectly..;)