Group O Matic
| Last Update: | May 9, 2008 (1 week ago) |
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| Category: | PvP and Raids & Encounters |
| Tags: | arrange, automatic, group, groupomatic, and raid |
| Project Manager: | Amavana |
| Current Version: | Group O Matic 1.9 (for World of Warcraft 2.4.0) |
| Downloads Today: | 29 |
| Downloads Total: | 1,478 |
| Favorites: | 11 |
| Comments: | 25 |
- About Group O Matic
Group O Matic is a tool for raid leaders. It does the following:
- Gives you the ability to save and restore raid member positions
- Gives you an auto-arrange command, which tries to find the best group arrangement based on class/spec, and then automatically arranges the raid to match it.
- Adds slash commands to swap raid members' groups (for macros to move people on the fly)
- Auto-arrange template for AB/EotS which will move people at the same node into the same group.
NOTE: If you want to configure GOM while not in a raid, use /gom active
- Macro Commands:
/rs Name1 Name2 (Swaps two people)
/rm Name Group# (Moves Name into Group#)
/rgs Group#1 Group#2 (Swaps two groups with each other)
- Raid Save and Restore:
Restore will try to get the current raid as close as possible to the saved raid. By default, if there are people missing they will be ignored, and if there are extra people they will be auto-arranged -- these settings can be changed in the "Manage Saves / Restore Options" pane.
- Auto Arrange:
Will scan the raid's talents (if a player is out of range, GOM will still see their talents if they are running GOM also) and use them to automatically set up the raid. If GOM can't find someone's talents (because they're offline, etc) it will use their last known talents. Anyone whose talents are completely unknown will have defaults filled in by class.
- Auto Arrange Templates:
GOM supports user-created templates to modify how the auto-arranger behaves. If you want to create one, see the EZ Templates tab or templates.lua. I've included an Alterac Valley template in addition to the default PvE raid template which is built-in.
- AB/EotS template:
Note that using the auto-arrange with this template will probably only be useful to you if you're in an AB/EotS game that is in-progress. It scans all raid members' current sub-zone ("mine", "stables", etc) and groups people at the same place together. Remember that GOM can't work while *you* the raid leader are in combat, but it doesn't matter if other people are, and you can macro /gom auto and hit it when you have a few seconds OOC.
- Group Exclusions:
You can exclude any/all groups from being saved/restored/arranged. Excluded groups will not be modified at all by the addon (the exception is the AB/EotS template, which intentionally ignores this setting).
- MVPs:
You can create a list of MVPs which the auto-arrange will look at first when arranging groups. Class and spec are valued over MVP status, but among players with the same class and spec, MVPs will be placed in the top groups first.
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Amavana saidJust a note on the 1.7 restore options menu:
"Smart" means that if there are people in the saved raid that aren't in the current raid, try to fill in their spots with "extras" (people in the raid that aren't in the saved raid) that have the same general talent build as the missing person.
"Separate" means to not auto-arrange extras into the raid, instead try to push them into the lower groups (so that you can add them manually). "Merge" does what it's done up until now, which is run the extras through the auto-arranger to find where they should be placed.
Note that the "Smart" vs. "Dumb" distinction won't have any effect on any given player unless GOM has already cached their roles, which it does when you auto-arrange with them close enough to scan (or every 5 minutes OOC if you have the option on).
OTOH, "Merge" vs. "Separate" works even if the addon doesn't have any talent data for anyone.
"Dumb - Merge" will behave exactly the way 1.6 does.
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Amavana said1.5 adds an MVP list for the auto-arrange. You can put players in it who you want to be picked before others with the same roles.
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Morgalm saidSweet thanks:) yeah raidrestore has never DCed me and I used it ALOT lol.
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Amavana saidAwesome, good to know that it's safe. :)
I have been playing with it set to 20 and so far it's been working fine, except that sometimes it spams you with "Group is full." (Which is annoying but doesn't break anything).
I'll be posting a fix for that tonight hopefully (a real fix, not just turning off the system messages, although that works too).
Edit: 1.4.2 fixes this.
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Amavana said1.4 allows you to change the number of moves sent to the server at a time (which can make the arranges almost instant).
It also doesn't de-select the AB/EotS template if you try to do a raid restore with it selected (now it just ignores it).
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Morgalm saidOne thing I have noticed is that the group moving is quite slow. Not that it really matters just thought it was odd since raidrestore does it immediately. But working good now:)
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Amavana saidThe difference is that RaidRestore requests every move at the same time, GOM requests one move at a time and waits for the server to reply. The reason for that is that (as RaidRestore's author notes) sending a ton of "move so and so" requests to the server at once can occasionally cause you to disconnect.
That said, now that GOM is stable I like the idea of being able to set how many requests it sends at once. I'll add that soon. If you want to set it to 25 or 40 and risk it then you'll be free to do that ^_~
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Amavana saidLooks like Curse ate my 1.3 upload. Re-uploading it seems to have worked.
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meanhoe saidcant seem to dl 1.3
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meanhoe saidyou rock, Amavana. thanks for letting me know about your wonderful addon.
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Amavana saidFinally found and fixed the bug with the talent scanner that was classifying hybrid classes as every possible role that their class can fill at once. >.>
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Amavana saidRelease! :D
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Amavana saidI believe that 0.0.6 fixes all known bugs. Give it a try! :D
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GIDustin saidFive premades so far successfully re-grouped. Some times it doesnt work first shot, one or two people are messed up, but I just hit her again and it works. Usually only messes up if people join/leave during the move process.
GJ, and thanks for listening to my feedback.
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Amavana saidCool :)
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Amavana said@Morgalm: TY for the feedback :) If you (or anyone) gets it to give a Lua error like that please let me know. Do you remember what you were doing when you got that?
As far as the "group is full" stuff...I'm not completely sure what's going on with that yet (working on it :D), however 0.0.5 tries to compensate for it, and shouldn't spam you.
Also note to anyone who has read below: the /run command I gave is no longer needed (and will do nothing) in 0.0.5
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Morgalm saidTried it last night in SSC. Got a nil error which I unfortunately don't have for you. When I clicked autoarrange it did not move anything and spammed me with "Your party is full" errors until I reloaded UI. So looks promising but have to stick with raidrestore for now:)
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GIDustin saidThought this would be a great idea for AV premades to rearrange groups once they get in. Boy was I wrong. I love the idea, but here's the problems:
If you arent the leader, you get infinite errors, forever. Bad plan.
Even if you are leader, half the time you get spammed with 'Your group is full' errors.
And then, when I finally got it to start swapping, it swapped the same 5 people back and forth. 15 seconds into that I gave someone else leader, and started getting the 'You arent the leader' error, so I reloaded ui.
I love the idea. PLEASE fix it!!
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Amavana saidI just tried the current version out in AV, and did not get any errors. The error you're getting re: the group being full must be some other addon.
In the next beta I'll fix the other two problems, and add a system to only move a person once the previous move has finished, which should let it go as fast as it can without causing problems if you're lagging. In the mean-time, you can slow down the auto-arrange with
/run GOMatic_ArrangementFrameUpdateThrottle = 1.5
and you can always stop it with /gom cancel
thanks for the feedback :)
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Amavana saidAh I should have thought of the leader swapping after the arrange already started.
I'll fix that, thanks. :)
I've never seen it swap people back and forth, but if it is, it's probably due to lag. I had hoped that I could set the delay between swaps to a pretty low value, but I guess it's not safe to do that. I'll set it back up to 1.5 seconds.
As far as the group being full...I have no idea how GOM could give you that error. That sounds like an addon that's trying to auto-invite people, which GOM doesn't do. If you're sure it's GOM doing it, could you post the exact text?