World of Warcraft

Can WoW teach the US Government about Terrorism?

I really don't know where to begin with this one. On one hand, there are some resemblances in acts within the game, but actually comparing it to taking hundreds or thousands of lives? Lives that don't come back? No resurrection to recover from a wipe? Yeah... that's a bit much, honestly.

According to this article on Wired, the Center for Terrorism and Intelligence Studies "thinks the game could provide a powerful new way to study how terrorist cells form and operate."

"The main strength is that [Warcraft] involves 'real' people making real decisions in a world with some kind of [controllable] bounds," said Blair, who said studying players' actions could prove useful to military intelligence analysts. "To put it academically, you have both dependent and independent variables."

A Yale University terrorism expert commented in the article by saying the following, which seems to make more sense than the initial foray into mild insanity.

"This is very interesting and relevant to the times," he said, "though I wouldn't base a new counterterrorism strategy on the nuances of a videogame."

What are your thoughts? Will the Center for Terrorism and Intelligence Studies find something useful, or are they barking up the wrong tree?

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  • Backu68 said 
    Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    Relatively uneducated? WHO THE HELL ARE YOU? Majority of the people that play the game do have intelligence. I myself play the game simply to lose the monotony of day-to-day life. I know a few people in the game do the exact same thing. I run a guild with over 100 individual people (not characters, accounts) in it, and maybe 5% are the 'Young' people you are thinking of. Get your information straight before pissing everyone off.

  • Tmistro said 
    Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    I completly agree with gde316. At what point in the article does it suggest all WOW players are terrorists? it dosent some of you people are coming up with absalute rubbish from this. They what to know how people think they dont think you are all bloody terrorists or terrorists are gonna play the game. Think before you comment something ridiculas. Tryna use this as an excuse to playwow all day? Even the american goverment isnt this stupid.

  • Korosu said 
    Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    Terrorist/terrorism=real war/ real WORLD
    Wow=fake world, fake attributes, fake reality, fake gravity, fake atmosphere, fake mass, fake physics, fake air, fake space, fake chemistry, fake EVERYTHING.

    Comparing the thought process of 12 year olds in suburbia to men living in the some of the worst areas of the world = blatantly retarded.

  • Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    im a terrorist... a 375 terrorist to be exact, i can make bombs, adamatite bombs.. they pwn, but dont tell the government, engineering is just starting to get good ;)

  • acoakley said 
    Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    GDE, Before you say that "most terrorists are uneducated", you might want to educate yourself with "Engineers of Jihad" (google it). The authors don't seem to understand cause and effect relationships very well but the data points they collected dispute your assertion. Most terrorists are either highly educated or quickly dead.

  • Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    it's not saying WoW players are terrorists, it's an implication to the similarities between terrorism (or military action) and some aspects of the game. Just an example would be a raid on a city, whether it's IF, Org, UC, whatever, the primary point would be to gather enough ppl to go as far as you want (annoy players there or kill the leader/king/queen), so basic organisation. Then there's what the ppl being attacked do, do they accept it? do they fight back? It's not an ideal thing to base full real life strategies off, but it is a way to observe what ppl do and how they react.

    I'm just saying look at how guilds operate. I'd much sooner relate this sort of thing to military (loosely) than terrorism, but still. Chess and the old stratego board games (and some even older versions like the ancient Egyptian chess like game) have military applications, if only in strategy developement. Even todays computer games help improve hand eye co-ordination that is a fundemental in using a firearm

    I think they are onto something interesting (and has been for a while), though not really relevent on the game of WoW.

    bottom line: it's only a game to be played and enjoyed for what it is, entertainment

  • Switched said 
    Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    Blair and politics tbh. Its a game for *** sakes :/ no?

  • Regicide said 
    Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    It's a game, raiding IF is not raiding New York. It's an interesting idea but absolutely no point in putting time and money into it for finding any links to terrorism. In world of warcraft moral rules do not apply as seriously as real life e.g killing a human in the BG or pickpocketing someone.

  • Zenithos said 
    Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    I think the point here is not that you can find terrorists in video games, but rather use video games as a way of seeing how people go about doing "terrorist" acts. For example, that PvP guild may not be full of actual terrorists, and they may not do anything horrible in real life, but their behavior in the game might resemble how actual terrorists behave in real life.

    Of course I say might, because that's the idea behind it but I'm not so sure it'd work.

  • Clarise said 
    Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    I think I is just a supid idea. How can WoW be used i terrorist study? It has nothin with the real world. Why dont they create a game that is more like the rl? If they want to use a game, why not Call of Duty? That is more realistic. WoW is si-fi fantasy, terroism is real.

  • gruntboy said 
    Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    I think they should work on the Intelligence part of their studies first. If they can nail that, perhaps then they'll realise what a witless exercise it is to try to draw comparisons between terrorism and a video game and go spend their money on something meaningful.

  • Korosu said 
    Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    Absolutely moronic. Although this is a depiction of 'real' people making 'real' decisions its literally STUPID to base those on 'real' life considering everything, EVERYTHING in that game has no inclination to real life interaction WHAT SO EVER. BASICALLY- Government is using this to study the aspects of the gamer society, because like all things that you do- the government wishes to control/regulate what you can and cannot do. Its a waste of MY tax money, its a wast of MY governments time which should be spent on MUCH more valuable things, like I dunno getting bush out of office and REVERSING the dumb ass anti-terrorism NAZI laws that were put into place (no that is not an overstatement) Sadly what few people know is "Terrorism, terrorism, terrorism" was exactly the same ploy HITLER used before WW2- It's an invisible face to an invisible enemy used to shadow actions of very few men in great power BEHIND the puppetry you call the United States Government. Wake up- http://zeitgeistmovie.com/

    If you find wasting money on this useful Look at the deficit and tell me how to pay that off first, WITHOUT slavery. (Basically every dollar in currency is loaned to the US at interested, therefor using every dollar to pay it back we would still be in debt) No wealth to pay a debt=slavery.

    Pay the deficit without causing some sort of slavery and then I'll be fine with our government using money studying people obsessed with chuck norris.

  • Aaberg said 
    Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    GDE, maybe the US gov. should look at their foreign policies before looking into WoW as to find the "how" and "why"s of a terrorist.

  • Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    Goverment just stay out of video games, they don't wanna collect information on "terroists" they just wanna ruin something thats perfectly fine.

  • trystt said 
    Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    i knew our government was crazy.

    seriously i read like the first paragraph and burst out in laughter. i cant believe our government thinks like this...

    they need an Intellect buff...

  • highone said 
    Fri, Mar 21 2008 9:25 PM ()

    CIA 's
    "I" will drop after that failure of project hahahah