World of Warcraft

Fan asks court to ban real sloth and greed from WoW

A video game fan wants justice in the World of Warcraft. Antonio Hernandez have played WoW for some time now and is tired of the gold sellers and corruption that plague the game.

It will be waged in the Fort Lauderdale federal courthouse. The former assistant manager at an Orlando-area video game store is suing a company he says sells "virtual gold" from the "World of Warcraft" for real money. He wants IGE U.S. banned from selling gold - a practice commonly called "gold farming" or "real money trading" - because it hurts the game’s economy and ruins the entertainment experience, according to the lawsuit. Virtual gold, earned within the game, can be used for such things as buying and repairing equipment or learning new skills.

The case is thought to be the first of its kind - a lawsuit filed by a player seeking to ban "real money trading" within a virtual world. Hernandez wants a judge to certify the case as a class-action lawsuit, another potential first when it comes to lawsuits involving online role-playing games.

The legal fight is being closely watched by the fledgling field of "virtual law" and passionate "World of Warcraft" players.

"The real significance of this case is, ‘What are the rights of the (virtual world) community members when they go online?’" said C. Richard Newsome, Hernandez’s attorney.

Check out the full article here.

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  • Alhannah said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Gah, I just dont want ppl spamming me with stupid Gold adds

  • GarryFre said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Losing battle man, a future lawyer with too much time on their hands.

    The only way to erradicate rulebreaking is to change people's attitudes or by changing the rules.

  • Nechi said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    About time!

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Oh my god. What a little baby. Seriously, I have been playing WoW since its release and not once have i had to QQ about gold sellers. Sure it's technically against the ToS but who's to say that it "ruins" the economy? He's just whining because he is too lazy to farm gold and can't afford to buy it. I farmed 5000g for an epic flyer, i farmed every copper i have ever needed for anything. It's not hard, so people that don't have time buy gold. It's their money, they can do with it what they please. Seriously, he should just go do Jack Thompson, those two were obviously born lovers.

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    WHO EVER SELLS GOLD OR BUYS IT IS AN IDIOT!! REALLY, COMON! THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN IF EVERY1 NEVER DID THIS. SURE, THERE ARE SOME THAT WOULD NEVER DO SUCH A THING, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE TOO MANY WHO DO!

  • Daaltron said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    I can't decide who I hate more. The lifeless zombies that farm for a living *cough* third world Asians *cough cough* and the ignorant pricks that buy the gold. Sure something like an epic flyer is something to consider buying gold for, but anything but self-based improvements skill or mount wise is bad gameplay. It also screws up the whole server because you buy every epic under the sun off the AH and resell them for insane prices, which in turn cause all prices to raise, causing cash monopolies. Over on Sentinels(US) some blood elf almost got the B& hammer for monopolizing our auction house.

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    REALLY?! IF NO ONE EVER DID IT, IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN?! YOUR LOGIC ASTOUNDS ME!! AS DOES YOUR CAPITALS AND USE OF EXCLAMATION MARKS!!! !!!!! !!!!!!!

  • Aricitic said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    It is, in fact, against the terms of service. I believe that blizzard should take a more active role in removing people who buy or sell gold from their servers. Selling gold, and buying gold hurt the economy of the game because people illegitimately get gold and prices go up on the Auction House. Selling gold hurts the community because we have to listen to those gold selling advertisements, powerleveling advertisements, and hacking advertisements.
    It's about time someone starts pushing in real life to change a problem that effects us all both in our mortal lives and in the lives we lead in World of Warcraft. Please, for the love of god, and all the is pure and good, do something to stop these people from being able to corrupt us more than others do...
    And besides, Blizzard has clearly stated that they don't want people buying or selling gold, which is essentially their property. They should do a little more to stop it...

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Actually the selling of in-game currency for actuall money is prohibited by the EULA that you signed when logging in. Its not a federal offense to sell gold for money, but you can have your account suspended for selling or even purchasing gold from a third party service. Most gold-farmers are actually players from foriegn countries like Russia and China, the lawsuit may not hold up in court because IGE may be based in a country that doesn't prohibit such actions, much like trying to enforce Copy-right laws overseas in places like Korea, Afganastahn, and other countries.

    Its not as much as changing oppinions about gold-farming, its about Blizzard and other companies dropping the ban hammer on them because at the end of the day, their guilty of violating the legal agreement behind owning a World of Warcraft account. Anything that stops them from spaming my chatbox is a welcome countermeasure.

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    I Personal think this is a ok idea cause of the spaming some of them do in the game. Also if you play the game you have agree in the terms. Not to sell real money with virtual money and the ways some of these people are geting there money is by hacking into your accout with you chacter name if its same as your accout. I had a friend who lost all his gold and armor cause they wanted his gold. These are my personal thoughs so dont get mad at me. Also Have a nice day everyone. ^_^

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Jesus Christ what a waste of the courts time. This man has no case. All he is doing is wasting his, the courts, and Blizzard time and money. If you don't like how the game is being run then FREAKING LEAVE. This sort of stupidity just annoys me to no end.

    This is just my opinion though.

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Awesome. Period.

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    If it distracts the gold-farmers enough to reduce the constant spam by even 1 message a day, then it has served it purpose. :P

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Yea this guy is fighting a war that he isn't gonna win. The court hardly cares for people let alone a video game. It's a good idea but still. Good Luck.

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Consider this, how much money would blizzard lose if they actually banned all the accounts of loan sharks? The time and effort to verify true terms of law breakers compared to a slightly dimmer economy, and the "annoying spam" (which can be avoided by ignoring the player) is judgmentally a substantial difference.

    I have a 'bank char' which is constantly sending and receiving large amounts of items/money to my main account. How is blizzard going to know the difference between this and gold sellers? Simply flagging every obtuse money transaction will create numerous delays and problems for everyone.

    Why not attack the websites? I'm not entirely sure, but isn't it out of blizzards jurisdiction?

    So, the question becomes, is it even worth hassle for blizzard to crack down on gold sellers?

  • captduke said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Sqaurlien, did you even read the article before posting? His complaint has nothing to do with "how the game is run", and Blizzard is not a party in the case, so how is it a waste of Blizzard's time and money? Will he succeed? Probably not, but his efforts may help lead to someone (Blizzard, most likely) eventually being able to do something legally about these people.

  • Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    im guessing this is a real blank area of the law. the question is"do you own your gold or does blizzard?"

  • m3chm4n said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    Although it is true that a lot of time and energy (not to mention money) will be used to crack down on "gold farmers", the principle is justified. Considering the fact that these companies spend $15 a month in order to make thousands off of a game they did NOT design nor have any legal ownership in is what makes "gold farming" such a problem. Blizzard may loose a few thousand "gold farmer" accounts but will gain a more secure game. In my opinion that is worth the effort. And concerning ignoring gold spam, putting individual "gold spammers" on ignore does not help since each character is deleted once used. A new character with a different name is created a few minutes later.

  • GekiritZ said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    I don't understand why everybody keeps yelling the man hasn't got a case. If you've read the terms of service included in WoW, it clearly states that any transactions not made with Blizzard, using real life money, concerning game content (i.e. Gold or items) is in breach with the EULA and thus, illegal.

    Now I don't really know what the penalty is for breaking an EULA on Terms of Service grounds, but if this case picks up and Blizzard gets involved with the case, the best shot they can throw at gold farmers is copyright infringement (An unlicensed/endorsed third party influencing the game world as made by Blizzard could be interpreted as such) , which could lead up to hefty fines and/or recollection of damages, meaning every traceable cent used to buy Gold.

    As for the money Blizzard will miss out on when banning all gold-barkers, well, if you start to think about it, it's practically not even that much, considering there are millions of paying players out there already, a teensieweensie percentage of those being said barkers. Plus banning the spammers make the game more appealing for people who enjoy a spamfree environment.

    Any thoughts?

  • curuTH said 
    Mon, Apr 14 2008 9:05 PM ()

    I had 44 Gold Spams today, sick of them and if it weren't for SpamSentry I would seriously be kicking off about this.

    The main cause for the survival of the gold sellers is the cost of the flying mounts, Blizzard could end this pretty quickly if they just wiped the epic mount price down or even made it faction rep related taking the money side out of it completely.

    What is however being ignored by Blizzard at this time and it is offered by the same companies, is the Battleground "Power levellers" which seem to be thriving more and more on Cyclone here in the EU, putting together a pre-made, mainly with third party programs and literally power level a paying customers character through until he has got the promised BG kit and accessories... Cyclone (EU) is full of very suspect players but Blizzard time and time again ignore this as they ignore the spammers, the trade chat abusers, indeed it seems you can do what you like in WoW with little retribution due your way.

    Didn't the Koreans though address this by outlawing such and making other transactions taxable? I am sure one country outlawed gold selling in MMORPG's but can't think where, however if that country has placed this into its constituitional lawbooks and are a member of the ICCJ then if this bid fails it could be brought about again under an internation criminal court warrant.

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